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to be an american. >> and -- >> no one's ever asked to see my birth certificate. >> and this tweet, obama sympathizes with attackers in egypt. and then last night -- >> he's not a real president. >> tonight on "hardball" we show you the true ugly campaign being run against the president. even in the face of this ugly attack, there are two big new poll numbers running in his direction. we give them to you tonight. let's check the hardball scoreboard. according to a "new york times"/cbs/quinnipiac poll, obama leads romney by ten points. down in florida, the president's lead in the poll is nine, 53-44. the president looks to be opening up a big lead now, even in the face of this coordinated attack from the right. with me now are mother jones bureau chief and msnbc political contributor david corn and cynthia tucker. i want to talk about the good news for the obama team right now. cynthia, why do you think -- take a minute here -- despite this ugly campaign i've just pointed out in its pattern, its thread, what they are doing to try to delegitimize this president, why is he doing well in the

taste of what's beg used to defeat president obama. newt gingrich. what if obama is so outside our comprehension that only if you understand kenyon antiolonial behavior can you begin to piece together his actions. d -- >> wou liktoe hish s h ife,au ifca the pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> and -- >> i wish this president would love how to be an american. >> and -- >> no e's ever aedo see birtceificat >> and this tweet, obama sympathizes with attackers in egypt. and then last night -- >> he's not a real president. >> tonight on "hardball" we show you the true ugly campaign being run against the president. even in the face of this ugly attack, there are two big new poll numbers running in his direction. we give them to you tonight. let's check the hardball scoreboard. according to a "new york times"/cbs/quinnipiac poll, obama leads romney by ten points. down in florida, the president's lead in the poll is nine, 53-44. the president looks to be opening up a big lead now, even in the face of this coordinated tack from the right. with me now are mother jones b

. republicans have common-sense proposals to remove these. president obama puts governments first. he wants to raise taxes on small businesses. he wants to keep our energy races under lock and key including the keystone xl pipeline. he wants more spending that will put us in debt to china. more of the same. where are the jobs that no wonder jobs are fleeing overseas. let's bring those jobs home, back to america, back to local businesses. there is one more thing i tell people. i tell them i have made restoring the american dream my life work. without it i would not be where i am today. eiger up in an under privilege neighborhood. i was the first person in my family to attend college. my mother and grandmother started cleaning the house is again when i did not have enough money for law school and my brother gave me everything he had. i would tell myself that if i ever got out of the environment i gear up when i would work hard to get others out and make it easier for them to have the same opportunities that have given me a chance to make a difference. that is why i am running for congress. it

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obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >> i accept people are going to call me awful things every day. >> then there was mitt romney. >> the few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. >> if he's going to double down on that 47, that will cause difficulties. >> wait a couple of days for that bounce. >> he has no past that i can ever spot. >> i can appreciate your kind words. >> when i was a boy i used to think that becoming rich and becoming famous would make me happy. boy, was i right. >> yeah, he said that. with just 42 days until the presidential election and with a new poll showing mitt romney's path to the presidency rapidly narrowing, paul ryan is rapidly realizing that he is well on his way to becoming the next losing vice president candidate. so he is desperately trying to avoid the stench of romney. yes, the stench. that is what paul ryan is actually calling mitt romney, according to politico. reportedly he has been marching around the campaign bus saying

trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuck in that little basement where they cut medicare. >> well, mitt romney was on the campaign trail today saying, i have a little secret, i'm going to win pennsylvania. okay. he's not going to win pennsylvania. >> it's the oldest state in the union. >> he's not going to win pennsylvania with paul ryan's profile on medicare or budget cutting or anything else. so if mitt romney is serious about making a play in pennsylvania, that just underscores how inconvenient paul ryan has become. look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is,

key battleground stat states. topping our political headlines, mitt romney going after president obama on foreign policy today. in his weekly podcast, romney said the president is fumbling his response to events in the middle east. >> this week, when president obama was asked about the recent disruption and chaos and violence in the middle east, he said that these were merely bumps in the road. that casual assessment of shocking events reveals that the president really doesn't understand the gravity of the challenges that we face in the broader middle east. >> meanwhile, the obama campaign is out with a new ad, it takes aim at romney's experience at bain capital, spotlighting workers who said they lost their jobs because governor romney was more concerned about short-term profits than creating jobs. >> people need to know what mitt romney did to miriam, indiana, in 1994. >> you don't just come in and take everything everybody's got and destroy a business. i mean, that's what they did. >> when you take away all the good-paying jobs such as we had here at gst steel in kansas city, the mi

the gravity of the challenges that we face in the broader middle east. >> meanwhile, the obama campaign is out with a new ad, it takes aim at romney's experience at bain capital, spotlighting workers who said they lost their jobs because governor romney was more concerned about short-term profits than creating jobs. >> people need to know what mitt romney did to miriam, indiana, in 1994. >> you don't just come in and take everything everybody's got and destroy a business. i mean, that's what they did. >> when you take away all the good-paying jobs such as we had here at gst steel in kansas city, the middle class is going to become extinct. >> neither obama nor romney have public events scheduled for today, but vice president joe biden and paul ryan were both on the trail. the vice president was in florida this morning, ryan is in new hampshire and is traveling to ohio for an event tonight. we will, of course, have more on all of these stories over the next two hours. in case you have not heard, the countdown is on to colorado. even though both campaigns are playing the lowered expectations gam

, ohio, is so important both to president obama and mitt romney campaigning there this afternoon. and there's more of a backdrop than just the early autumn trees. a brand new quinnipiac/cbs "new york times" poll has the president a full ten points ahead of romney in ohio. 53% to 43%. let's begin with cnn white house correspondent dan lothian. >> reporter: joe, even though a new poll shows the president with a double digit lead in ohio, mr. obama continues to push hard in the state. it's a huge priority for the campaign according to a top aide. by our count the president has visited ohio at least 13 times so far this year. this time ahead of early voting, which by the w begins next tuesday. now, today the president was again selling his policies and his record in a state he says has benefitted from the auto bailout. he talked about the thousands of jobs created but also hit china and went after his gop opponent. >> he's been talking tough on china. he says he's going to take the fight to them. he's going to go after these cheaters. and i've got to admit, that message is better tha

much. happening now, a speech to the world. president obama at the united nations goes in depth on the turmoil in the middle east. also, mitt romney talking aid, trade and more drilling down on foreign policy. we're going to hear what he's saying. and the news many homeowners have been waiting for years to hear. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> a brief break from the verbal sparring, the white house race. president obama stepped back in the global spotlight in new york today addressing the united nations assembly. he spoke at length about the turmoil in the middle east touting diplomacy and coalition building as the solution to the crisis to the region that's been vexing his administration. jessica yellin is traling with the president in new york. jessica, give us an update. what did the president say? >> reporter: wolf, when the president spoke here he had two major audiences, a global audience and a domestic audience. voters listening now to foreign policy issues with a new ear and a new eye after this violence in libya. and the president addressing it all

to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuck in that little basement where they cut medicare. >> well, mitt romney was on the campaign trail today saying, i have a little secret, i'm going to win pennsylvania. okay. he's not going to win pennsylvania. >> it's the oldest state in the union. >> he's not going to win pennsylvania with paul ryan's profile on medicare or budget cutting or anything else. so if mitt romney is serious about making a play in pennsylvania, that just underscores how inconvenient paul ryan has become. look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that migh

. the president's lead in ohio is starting to look dominant. in a fox news poll, president obama leads by seven points. a "washington post" poll puts the president up by eight points in ohio. and the most recent poll by cbs and "the new york times" has president obama leading by ten points. romney was in ohio today, making a new pitch to voters. he's the guy who understands their pain. >> there are so many in our country that are hurting right now. i want to help them. i know what it takes to get an economy going again and creating jobs. >> voters in ohio don't believe romney on this front at all. when it comes to the economy, 51% of ohio voters say they trust president obama against 45% of voters who trust mitt romney. obama has an advantage on the economy in ohio, because basically, this state is a national success story when it comes to the economy. listen to mitt romney's ohio surrogate, governor john kasich. doesn't sound like there's much reason for ohio voters to make a change. >> you know, i hope you all know that ohio's coming back from 48th in job creation to number four, number one i

>> i need you to go out and find someone that voted for barack obama and get them to vote for me, all right. >> romney's pitch comes as polling shows president obama has the advantage in nine battleground states including razor-thin leads in north carolina and nevada and a bigger lead in mitt romney's vacation destination, new hampshire. all of it comes with a new headline from politico. in the end, it's mitt. all of us making a first presidential debate, which is less than one week away now even more critical for the governor. let's bring in "news nation" panel. david godfrin, michael and steve daise, conservative radio talk show host. thanks to you for being with me on this friday. steve, let me start with you. these new poll numbers, the head-to-head showing the president now ahead in all three states, north carolina, nevada and new hampshire. new hampshire, of course, romney's home away from home where he has a vacation spot. governor romney's favorables continue to be underwater in all but north carolina now. combine these numbers with what we've seen all week, how worried a

polls, obama is doing really well in pennsylvania. maybe he's got some private polls that he's doing inside his campaign that shows some other trends developing in pennsylvania. i haven't seen any public polls that would indicate he's got a shot in pennsylvania. i also haven't seen any indication that the romney campaign is spending any campaign money advertising in pennsylvania. if they are, it is really not much. but as i say, maybe there is something that his campaign knows that we don't yet know becae righnow it looks like obama is doing really, really well innsylnia. and the surrounding new jersey, new york, or maryland for that matter. i roey doeshave a sho viouslin some of the other states like ohio, not that far away, but pennlvania looks like a long shot. he w doing som fd-raising there earlier today, had a rally in pennsylvania, but see if this is serious, this notion that he p has a shot pennsylvani it would be a amatic shift. >> wow,e h,wolf, a lot of s real turning ich begi wednesday in denver. no we also have received this memo fm a romney senior adviser that me

of president barack obama. 39 days until the election. pennsylvania is one of the states that is leaning toward the president, but romney is predicting an upset. >> i've got a little secret here, that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania, we're going to take the white house. >> well, wolf blitzer with us now. so, you know, from washington, wolf, we have seen romney confine his campaign to the nine battleground states. why is he now taking a shot at this state, pennsylvania, which clearly seems to be leaning obama? >> according to the public polls, obama is doing really well in pennsylvania. maybe he's got some private polls that he's doing inside his campaign that shows some other trends developing in pennsylvania. i haven't seen any public polls that would indicate he's got a shot in pennsylvania. i also haven't seen any indication that the romney campaign is spending any campaign money advertising in pennsylvania. if they are, it is really not much. but as i sa

. >> well, of course. i'm going to repeal obama care. i've said that on the campaign trail. i think every single day obama care must be repealed in its entirety. >> he was for it before he was against it. and that auto bailout -- >> you said, quote, if general motors, ford, and chrysler gets the bailouts that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the automotive industry good-bye. >> that's exactly right. if you write a check, they are going to go out of business. >> my own view was that they needed to go through bankruptcy before government help and finally that's what the president did. so i'll take a lot of credit that this industry has come back. >> see, he told the president to let detroit go bankrupt so he should take the credit for saving detroit. and he's just as hapless on taxes. >> raise taxes with obama care but he's got another taxes in mind. >> governor romney doesn't need zingers. he needs to get his story straight. he needs to stop debating himself. and at the end of the day, this election isn't about one liners. just ask our president. >> i know folks in

's trendinin barack obama's favor. new polling by "the new york times" and quinnipiac has president obama up in florida by nine points. in ohio, president obama up by ten points. est a y oias there are otr smaller and more local polls that have the margins slightly smaller in pennsylvania and florida today, but those other pollalso show president obama winning in the swing states. a new ppp poll in iowa today shows president obama leading in io bvein ie mtiol colorado showing president obama leading in colorado by four points. nationally, president obama has seen his lead rebound in recent days. in the gallup daily tracking point, he initially got a six-point bounce out of the democratic convention. that lead evaporated in e ys n pdebaas tow au regained that six-point lead as if he just did the conventions all over again. with just 41 days left until the election, a snapshot of the race is very clear. in fact, we do these polls every day and it's almost starting to seem static at the presidential lel. thswstpolls that we do every day, pretty much the map always look like this. president oba

's something important like football, well, look for the union label, america. barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only 187 days before training camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great state of wisconsin, do hereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer

to be trailing after the democratic convention. president obama is pulling ahead in the upper midwest. i think this may be less about -- this is only mitt romney, and mitt has to be mitt and it's all about mitt. this runs deeper than that. this is a sort of recentering of the american electorate we're witnessing. >> let's go back to the political article. it isn't the chair or the ho-hum convention or the looked video or stewart stevens or the improving economy or media bias or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. is it that simple? is the problem at the end of the day that it's the candidate himself? it's mitt romney who perhaps isn't what some thought he would be in terms of a candidate? >> i think it's some of the intangibles that surround the race, but i think largely it's the candidate himself. the problem, as i perceive it, is he's trying to please too many different bosses. he had to attack far to the right craig to win the primary process. he survived it. i thought there was going to be a leftward move towards the center to put him more where he was at the governor of massachusetts. it

and a half hours. >>> today this week's denver debate. the first of three 09-minute faceoffs. obama versus romney. >> how is it that you're the expert on my position when my position has been very clear? i'll tell you -- >> i'm the expert. i'm the expert, and i'm -- >> when he suggests that senator obama's plan is dangerous -- >> that's not the case. what he said was a precipitous withdrawal would be dangerous. he did not say -- >> he said -- >> sizing up the showdown with a man who has debated both 2012 candidates republican senator john mccain, and then the risk of being the frontrunner with obama's senior advisor david axelrod. plus, polls, ads, and early voting. with republican strategist alex castellanos, and cinderella and congressional correspondent dana bash. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> it would not be debate season if the political world and the campaigns didn't play the expectations game. >> the president is obviously a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he will do just fine. >> the president's campaign manager jim mecina called romney a very skilled debater

to hit him on other things. >> one thing, though, ron, the obama campaign said, though, if romney loses ohio it is likely game over. is there a sense that the republican campaign is feeling that pressure? >> reporter: yeah. i think they're acknowledging they're behind. they don't believe it's game over and no republican president ever has gotten to the white house without taking ohio and even though he's behind, campaign insiders saying that their internal polling is much closer race than the public polls and will leave them where they are. they think they have a fight in ohio on their hands. >> ron mott reporting. now christin welker in bowling green. >> reporter: good afternoon to you. president obama just wrapped up his speech at bowling green state university. he spoke before a pretty excited crowd of more than 5,000 people. heard you talking about the importance of ohio. this is president obama's 13th trip to ohio just this year. so that gives you a sense of just how important it really is to his overall campaign strategy and it comes about a week before early voting begins here in

than barack obama. he has to throw some punches. he can't just kind of go in there sort of apologetically and be very gentle with obama. he has to really throw some punches and show people why he's the better candidate. i think a lot of these polls are a little bit overstated. i think the democrats have been oversampled in a lot of polls, and i don't think there's that huge of a gap between romney and obama. nonetheless, he has to make a really strong stand in the first debate. this is probably the most important debate for him at this point in the campaign. >> i don't want to let that statement about polls go unanswered. eugene robinson's piece today is about what he calls the new conspiracy. republicans diluted that there are skewed polls. paul ryan was the latest one to join on the bandwagon last night talking about wisconsin. >> i don't believe that particular poll. i won't get into the methodologies about it. >> they weren't talking about a specific poll in na statement, which sounds like it doesn't matter to him which poll it is but it's tainted. what's your take o

journal" mariss poll shows president obama with a seven-point lead in new hampshire, two-point leads in nevada and north carolina. virginia could be the bellwether. both the president and mitt romney campaigned there yesterday, and the latest poll shows the president with with a slight edge. let me bring in perry bacon and susan. good to see both of you. good morning. >> good morning. >> i'm sure you saw what charles cr krauthhammer wrote this morning. make the case and go large. it might just work and it's not too late. what do you think, susan? does mitt romney need to take risks and go big? >> one thing is for sure. the debate this week in denver on wednesday is a big deal for the romney campaign. he has to make his case, and he has to mak his case he's a better candidate than barack obama. he has to throw some punches. he can't just kind of go in there sort of apologetically and be very gentle with obama. he has to really throw some punches and show people why he's the better candidate. i think a lot of these polls are a little bit overstated. i think the democrats ha

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and white college graduates and working class voters voted in 2008. minorities 80/20, obama. white college graduates a four-point deficit, and the right hand column you see how much demographic change we have just in the last four years based on current population survey eligible voters. according to be sedated, we've seen an increase of three points in the share of eligible voters were minority's and a decrease of three points in the share of voters who are white noncollege or working class. that's quite a lot of change in a short period of time. let's just think a bit about what these figures mean, the figures from 2008 and the figures for today. even though it looks like the minority vote usher should go up, let's just say it does not. but let's say that obama gets again the 80% of the minority vote he got in the 2008. let's get nearly loses white college graduates by four-point. it means that you actually be competitive in this race, mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points among the white working class in this election. that's youth turnout doesn't change

strategy and the obama re-election campaign, as predicted by ann romney, is using the romney tax returns as ammunition. >> governor romney on 60 minutes was asked does he think it's fair that he pays a lower tax rate than somebody who is making $50,000 a year. and he said yes. i think it's fair and i also think that's the way you get economic growth. i've just got a different vision about how we grow an economy. i think, barbara, that you grow an economy from the middle out, not from the top down. >> today, the obama re-election campaign released this ad in ohio. >> mitt romney attacked 47% of americans who pay no income tax, including veterans, elderly, the disabled. >> my job is not to worry about those people. >> doesn't the president have to worry about everyone? mitt romney paid just 14.1% in tacks last year. he keeps millions in bermuda and the cayman islands. he won't release his tax returns before 2010. maybe instead of attacking others on taxes, romney should come clean on his. >> today, new jersey republican governor chris christie struggled to and failed to come up with pro ro

these figures in 2008 mean in the figures for today. let's say obama gets again 80% of the minority vote. let's say it again, to actually be competitive in this race, it would have to go up 18 points in this election. that turnout does not change despite the shift in eligibility. 26% as you can see on this chart. it is now based on a recent poll that came out. i think it is the gold standard for polls. no offense to anyone else in the room who had their own poll. they do it right and they have a 3000 person sample. it is pretty reliable stuff. they give you a lot of interesting demographic rates. this shows among likely voters that obama is leading by eight a point. if you look the averages, that is high relative to the average. the averages from about four points. probably up by five points, this is within the averages. the overall topline, look at the black black at the margin, 91 points, that seems identical with obama's margin in 2008. seventy-two among hispanics and it is not that far off. also 22 for romney. what it means is that the idea that obama could get 80% of the minority again i

reading on -- reads of the morning. president obama makes another trip to ohio. romney definitely needs to put ohio back in play. the president simile wants to put it away. >>> today romney is out with a straight-to-camera ad. the ad itself is a bit of an admission that the 478% comments have done serious damage and the attacks on his personal wealth are also sinking in. take a look at the ad. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class fami families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good-paying job. >> worth noting, that's his first candidate-to-camera ad. this morning the obama campaign have another ad out hitting on the 47% comment. this is what it looks like. >> when mitt romney dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling their weight, he attacked millions of hard-working people making $25,000, $35,000 a year $40,000 a year. romney paid just 14% last year on over $13 million in income

park residents, homeless people and african-americans in counties president obama won in 2008. tonight the fox affiliate in denver, colorado is reporting the state republican party has terminated its relationship with the same voter registration firm accused of fraud down in the state of florida. it happened after this videotape surfaced of a young woman only registering voters who support mitt romney. >> i am polling people but do you vote for romney or obama? >> i thought you were registering voters a minute ago. >> i am, i am. >> and who are you registering? all voters? >> i'm actually trying to register people for a particular party because we're out here in support of romney actually. i am. >> and who is paying you for this? >> oh, the -- let me see, we're working for the county clerk's office. >> okay. you cannot come out here -- >> working for the county clerk's office. that means taxpayer dollars goes to that teen-age person to go out and register people who are going to vote for mitt romney. the fox affiliate confirmed the woman worked for the republican firm. this is what hap

? how about realistically? president obama is trying to seal the deal. >> values are hard work and personal responsibility, those values that we believe in don't just belong to workers or businesses or the rich or the poor, the 53% or the 47%, the 1% or the 99%. those are american values. and if you're with me and if you work with me, we'll win what county again. we'll win ohio again. we'll finish what we started. we'll remind the world why the united states of america is the greatest nation on earth. good bless you, everybody. god bless america. >> the first presidential debate is exactly one week from tonight and right now both mitt romney and the republican party are being rejected by the american people. joining me now is bob shrum, democratic strategist, and chris stal ball, co-host of "the cycle" on msnbc. bob, let ne start with you. is this as bad as it looks for romney or should i be looking at it more holistically? >> well, i think they should have said that ohio is a big hole in our planet. romney is not an ohio kind of guy. out there he comes across like a guy from a

different messages. as president obama widens his ohio lead in the latest polls, joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, managing editor of post politics.com and "washington post" political reporter karen tu multi. chris, first talk about the polls. how significant is it the double-digit lead in some polls now, cbs/"new york times" poll, the trend first in "the washington post" and our wall street journal/nbc news polls as well, is ohio moving fairly steadily into the obama camp? >> i would say the answer to that at the moment is yes. the post on monday did move ohio from a tossup state to a lean obama state. not just because of our poll that showed him up eight points but because of the wealth of data we've had out there. i would say as a word of caution, i don't think anyone including the obama team thinks they are going to win ohio by eight or ten points. they are ahead at the moment. they're probably ahead and think they may win by three, four, five points, but remember how critical ohio is to mitt romney's math. hard to see how he gets to 270 electoral votes without it. why he's

done that. >> in a sense you have to do what both clinton and obama did, and to some reagan did as well, which is to push back your base, and while at the same time say i'm just going this for the camera, i'm your map. all of the great politicians know how to do that. they have to deal with their base in that way. >> eliot: president obama got significant criticism on the first couple of years of his first term on issues such as immigration and lesbian/gay issues as well and then suddenly there when he needed the base to come back he came out in support of same-sex marriage. and that solidified him as yes, once again he is our candidate. >> that's right. >> eliot: there you see him as the nimble politician, and i think that has carried him forward. >> as with bill clinton he is enemies right at the moment of election where you have this hard core opposition as clinton did with newt gingrich. and then people say maybe he'll unleash in the second term. i think people are concerned with obama as well, who is the real obama. >> eliot: yeah. but we do know that

mitt has been matching obama small ball for small ball. a hit-and-run critique here. this is important. a hit-and-run critique here, a slogan of the week there. that's what we've been saying. sam stein, there is no over arching message, no reagan message, no thatcher message, no george h.w. bush message in 1988. it's small ball. you have a libyan embassy blow up. you push him out the next morning and do something that even the romney campaign now understands was an absolute disaster. the president makes a faux pa about a bump in the road which was a stupid thing to say but they obsess over that. they say this is the message. this is how we're getting people back to work and change the economy clearly they're chasing after news headlines trying to win the day. >> that is a good way to put it. they're chasing. >> but it's weird because you can argue they're racing after the wrong news headlines. for instance we spent a couple days obsessing over a 1980s or 1990s redistribution quote from obama right? that was the news of the day for the romney campaign at that time. we gave more attentio

. paul ryan gushed over president obama's skills on the debate stage. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidat

this morning, the eyes of the world will be on president obama as he speaks to the united nations general assembly on its opening day. the president is expected to address the recent violence in the middle east, the u.s. consulate attack in libya and issue a new warning to iran about its nuclear program. >> but president obama is not meeting one-on-one with any of the world leaders. he had 13 bilateral meetings last year. cnn foreign affairs reporter is with us. what can we expect from the president's speech this morning? >> obviously the president is going to touch on some of the big issues out there. he's going to talk about syria and how to contain the crisis there and get president bashar al assad out. he has to address the last couple of weeks, the consulate attack in libya but more importantly, the raging protests that have gone through the middle east, these anti-american protests. secretary clinton was speaking to the clinton global initiative yesterday and previewed what the president was going to say about the need to not have extremist hijack the arab spring. let's take a liste

chimed in. romney is down eight points against obama in ohio in the latest "washington post" poll. in that is bad news because of the fact that no republican candidate has ever taken the white house without care rig the state. but team romney still thinks they are within the margin of error. they are also hoping that ryan can save the ticket. as for president obama, he is dolling out plenty of money in ohio. this is something we see every four years as presidential candidates pay particular at attention to certain swing states. in this case it's president obama with ohio. ohio took home four time as much energy as any other state from the clen energy tax credit and it has the largest loan in the history of the u.s. small business administration. we are back with more bill press live at the break. and as always we are in chat at current.com/billpress. all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and >>you just think th

to win every other swing state that is also leaning towards obama. if he doesn't win ohio, h doesn't win. and i think when that video came out aboutim talking about the 47% and casting them aside, i think that will be viewed as the pivotal moment in this election, the way that in 2008 mccain's crazed response to the financial crisis was really the pivotal moment. >> so you think this tape is t game changer? >> i do think it's the game changer. but i want to cut mitt romney a little bit of slk. hink t wlm a impossible task for the are republican nominee to please the party se and appeal to a large section of electorate in order to win. they have to move so far to the right that it was impossible run a sort of a instam cagnand, as you said, this is a verdict not just on romney but on their entire go it alone philosophy. >> now, bob, picking up on far to the right, having to do that to win the primaries, when you look at the "new york times" poll of ohio, it is not just likeability. the economy 6 points up over romney. on health care, 14 points above romney of ohio ters. national securi, 12

community to stop iran from developing a nuclear weapon. when president obama calls him today, what will he say? >>> and one of america's most enduring mysteries. could be closer to being solved. police follow a new tip and start digging this morning. will they find the body of jimmy hoffa? it's friday, september 28th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> morning. welcome everybody, our starting point this morning is a hero's welcome for the real nfl referees. fans in baltimore gave them a standing ovation, ahead of last night's ravens/browns game. the replacements just one day after the league and referees union agreed on a new eight-year contract. nischelle turner is live in los angeles. they loved them at least at the very beginning. how did it go? >> four minutes they loved them for, soledad. you know, it didn't take long for the boos to come out. it wasn't because of bad calls or calls that fans thought were wrong. it was because, you know, when you have the home team and you make a call against the home team, fans don't tend to like that. the refs, the real regular refs did get that

. it is still unclear what the libyan government is doing to bring those killers to justice. president obama yesterday telling the u.n. assembly that america will get to the bottom of the murders of chris stevens and the others. >> the attack on civilians in benghazi were attacks on america. there should be no doubt we will be relentless tracking down the killers and bringing them tobill: how possit while order in libya is still unknown? we want to begin our coverage now. greg palkot streaming live out of tripoli. what is the latest on this militia crackdown there, greg? >> reporter: bill, martha, we're getting mixed signals about that. we were just talking to our contact in benghazi. he said one of the key militias in that city is it falling into line with the government. we've been out and about here in tripoli. we visited one compound where militias were driven out by libyan security forces but there are new protests planned for here and in benghazi on friday. a sign maybe the folks here aren't too sure what is going on with the militias. amid new concerns some of their weapons are going

obama is expected to pick up a phone and place a call to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today. this will be the first time the two leaders have spoken since the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. netanyahu has been pressuring the president to handle the nuclear threat from iran by drawing a red line. now the president so far has not obliged. so israeli prime minister drew his own red line yesterday with the entire world watching. >> where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. . before, before iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment. necessary to make a bomb. >> netanyahu warned it would be too late to stop iran from making a nuclear bomb if something isn't done before next summer. >>> police are trying to figure out why a gunman went on a deadly rampage inside a minneapolis sign company. the death toll rising this morning. the shooting killing four people before turning the gun on himself. it happened around 4:30 yesterday afternoon at the accent signage systems building on the north side of minneapolis. the shooter

than when president obama took office. and 15 million more are on food stamps. my plan will create 12 million new jobs over the next four years. we shoul'teasure compassion by how many pele are on wee. hosuomio by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good paying job. i'm mitt romney, and i approved this message. >> i think that ad just makes my odorning, it's thursday, september 27th, as you take a look at a wet times square in new york city. i'm in chicago this morning, but with us in new york city wh willie geist, our national affairs editor for "new york" magazine andnbit analyst, john heilemann. also former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst steve ratner and nbc news chief affairs correspondent and ht of "andrea mitchell reports." >> we have affairs. >> andrea mitchell. aninasto f "the politico playbook," executive executor jim vandehei. of course, willie, we've got a lot to talk about. let's start really quickly with the refs! >> they're back. >> we've got some breaking news. y,'s veryxc bseu, little she's 9 years old. she plays in the soccer le

for this wednesday, september 26th. a lot to tell you about including president obama speaking before the u.n.'s general assembly and warning iran that the time for diplomacy is, quote, not unlimited. plus ann romney on leno last night telling jay about the thriftiness of her super rich husband. that clip later in the show. first let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. and we begin on the campaign trail where exactly one week out now from the first presidential debate. and there is brand new polling this morning from three key swing states that will raise major concerns inside the romney campaign. of likely voters, president obama now leads mitt romney by 10 percentage points in the state of ohio. that's a double digit lead in the state no republican has lost and then won the presidency. the president up nine points in florida. that is absolutely a must win state for romney. mr. obama now opening up a 12 point lead in pennsylvania according to this poll. that's a state, though, republicans have all but written off. those numbers echo polling from the "washi

saying ron paul can't win. it every time he gets up to speak he draws a bigger crowds then obama or romney. the motion is amazing. i run into so many people -- you always hear they cannot win. if they could get more coverage other than c-span, c-span are the only people that are fair to third-party people compared to fox or cnn or ms nbc or any of the other ones. i wish more people would watch c-span and educate themselves to receive more votes. host: thank you for the call. one of your saying -- as we said earlier, ross perot sitting down for his first extended interview in many years. an interview conducted in plano, texas on thursday by richard wealth. they were agreeing to have our cameras in the room. it is a 70 minute conversation including david walker, who has been working with him on a number of initiatives to educate voters on issues in the election. the debt and deficit exceed $16 trillion. his article will appear tomorrow in usa today. we will show you an excerpt in just a moment. first some context to ross perot. when he ran as a third-party, he talked about the grow

dollars worth o bt. >> reporter: students can borrow direct from the govement. now obama proposes to slow tuition growth by increasing state rants. yet he would need congress to help f that. >> i'm not going to go out and promise all sorts of free kn you're going to end up pang f. what iant to do is give you a great job so you'll be able to pay it back yourself. >>epr: mitromney's plan to help students, remove burdensome regulations and get the government out of the student loan business. romney says the flood of federal dollars just drives up tuition. molly broad of the american council on education says the recession's heavy toll on state budgets is also a factor. >> when the state reduces its support, the only other place to turn for most colleges in the public sector is to increase tuition. >> reporter: either way, students like jackie feel left out in the cold. >> a lot of people who don't have students in college or don't have kids my age just think, you're either wealthy enough to go to college or you get financial aid from the government. and it is aththat simple, but is not that

policy in dealing with iraq and afghanistan? if you are not satisfi, what you think president obama should consider in a way of changes? >> i am not satisfied. as a libertarian, i seek a world at peace with other nations. i look to thomas jefferson's quotation for inspirion. peace, converse -- commerce, -- america should stop acting as the world's policeman. i do believe in a strong national defense, but the optimum board is defense, not offense. we do not have the mour money cy spent here at home. >> todd akin. >> it is important to have a foreign policy to start with. you have to have some basic principles, the guidelines. that needs to an acute -- includingraq, afghanist, a whole lot of other countries as well. the problem is we have not had that. what it seems like the vacillating policies we have almost punished our friends and helped o enemies. we decided to turn our backs on two of our allies, the czech republic and poland. we had plans to build missile defense. we gave that is a concession to russia. how much has russia helped us with iran? how much has russia helped us with

talk, obama is suddenly superman. candy crowley has an interesting take on all of this. let's watch this together. >> reporter: apparently romney supporter and republican governor chris christie didn't get the memo. >> wednesday night is the restart of this campaign and i think you'll see the numbers start to move right back into the other direction. >> reporter: note to governor christie, no, no, no, no. sop for predebate chatter is to lower expectations for your guy by raising expectations for the other guy. like this. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. >> reporter: because this is a bipartisanly accepted strategy like this. >> we expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night, he's prepared more than any candidate in history and he's shown himself to be a very, very good debater through the years. >> reporter: since you're supporting romney, the candidate who is running behind, you are supporting him, right? then you also need to lower the stakes for wednesd

obama a ten-point lead in ohio. the fourth poll to give the incumbent a wide advantage in the state. and enough for abc news to move the state's crucial 18 electoral votes out of battleground staters to lean obama. and as we now know the devil's in the details with romney failing to make the sale on almost any issue, including the economy where he's at a six-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? oh, my ohio. mitt romney knows that's trouble. and in a brand new ad one reason is clear, as romney plays face the camera doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing. maybe a little more -- tell you what here's an example of a politician speaking this afternoon in bowling green with genuine authenticity and commitment. >> my opponent may think it's fair that someone who makes $20 million a year like he does pays a lower rate than a teacher, i disagree.

that are the exact opposite. when you vote 98% of the time with obama and tell us you are a regular middle of the road, that takes a lot of guts. i have to give her credit for that. >> to what extent should the, still a matter? matter?ll >> i think he opened the view to how he thinks for missourians. they say a lot about how he views things, and that is where the need to pay attention. i believe a rape victim should be allowed to have emergency contraception in order to avoid pregnancy. todd akin does not. i believe his view is extreme and out of the mainstream for most missourians. he wants to abolish the middle wage. he wants to do away with student loans. think what would happen to columbia, missouri, it's the only kids who could get college loans were the rich kids. he wants to privatize medicare, privatizes security. he wants to do away with the student lunch program. he is one of a handful. i think there were four or five members of the united states congress that voted to eliminate the child nutrition program. the vote was something like 416- 5. i do not think that is the mainstream

's crucial 18 electoral votes out of battleground staters toean obama. and as we now ow del's in the details with romney failing to make the sale on almost any issue, including the economy where he's at a six-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? tt rney kha. trouble. and in a brand new ad, one reason is clear, as romney plays face thecamera, doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class e difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing. maybe a little more -- tell you what, here's an example of a politici speaking this nuauti an in bowlingreen wit come >> my opponent may think it's fair that someone who makes $20 million a year, like he does, pays a lower rate than a teacher, i disagree. i don't think that's fair. i don't think it helps grow our economy. mi t give up their deductions for owning a home or looking after their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. we're not going to do that. >> dear me. diwe mention ohio vot

with obama, give her credit to that. >> i think congressman akin's comments opens the window to his views for missourians. he has apologizedder those comments but they say a lot about how he views things. that's where missourians need to pay attention. i believe a rape victim should be allowed to have a emergency contraception in order to avoid pregnancy. todd akin does not. i believe his view is extreme and out of the mainstream for most missourians. there's other extreme views, he wants to abolish the minimum wage, he wants to do away with student loans. think what would happen to columbia, missouri if the only kid who could get a college loans, the only kids that can go to college with rich kids are the super star academics. he wants to privatize medicare, privatize social security, he wants to do away with student lunch program. he is one of the handful, think there were four or five members of the united states congress that voted to eliminate child nutrition program. the vote was something like 416-5. i don't think that's the mainstream compromise willing fix problems and attitude t

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